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		<title>DNA09: &#8216;The Established Media React&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet A look at how mainstream media (MSM) is seizing upon, or resisting technological changes. A panel chaired by Wired Magazine&#8217;s Ben Hammersley. He is joined by: Guido Baumhauer, director of marketing, sales and distribution at Deutshe Welle. Pat Loughrey, head of BBC Nations and Regions Hans Laroes, head of news at broadcaster NOS News [...]]]></description>
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<p>A look at how mainstream media (MSM) is seizing upon, or resisting technological changes.</p>
<p>A panel chaired by Wired Magazine&#8217;s Ben Hammersley. He is joined by:</p>
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<li><a href="http://dna2009.com/en/speakers/guido-baumhauer-deutsche-welle/" target="_blank">Guido Baumhauer,</a> director of marketing, sales and distribution at Deutshe Welle.</li>
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<li><a href="http://dna2009.com/en/speakers/pat-loughrey-bbc-nations-and-regions/" target="_blank">Pat Loughrey</a>, head of BBC Nations and Regions</li>
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<li><a href="http://dna2009.com/en/speakers/hans-laroes-nos-news/" target="_blank">Hans Laroes,</a> head of news at broadcaster NOS News</li>
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<li><a href="http://dna2009.com/en/speakers/simon-bucks-sky-news-online/" target="_blank">Simon Bucks</a>, associate editor, Sky News Online</li>
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<li><a href="http://dna2009.com/en/speakers/neil-mcintosh-wall-street-journal/" target="_blank">Neil McIntosh</a>, European editor, Wall Street Journal</li>
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<li><a href="http://dna2009.com/en/speakers/peter-vandermeersch-de-standaard/" target="_blank">Peter Vandermeersch</a>, editor of the Belgian newspaper, De Standaard</li>
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<p>Hammersley points out this been happening for a long time. So why are we still having the same conversations about the mainstream media reacting? There wasn&#8217;t really an answer to that one but there were some other big questions raised:<br />
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Are &#8216;publishers&#8217; and broadcasters ending up in the same space</em>?<br />
It&#8217;s not really a relevant distinction, the BBC&#8217;s Loughrey tells Journalism.co.uk after the discussion.</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not see myself as part of the established media,&#8221; Hans Laroes is keen to point out at the beginning.</p>
<p>The broadcast enterprise is still quite a separate one from the web at Sky, says Bucks &#8211; although web users already have some influence on television content, and maybe, the future could see online increasingly dictating television content.</p>
<p><em>What on earth is &#8216;database journalism&#8217;?</em><br />
Neil McIntosh said that while &#8216;it has to be said it&#8217;s being used for extremely boring journalism,&#8217; it&#8217;s about pulling together raw material in exciting ways, such as in crime mapping. There is lots of potential for the Wall Street Journal, he added.<br />
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How do we manage editorial, strategy and sales relationships? </em><br />
Following on from his keynote speech, Vandermeersch stresses that editorial, sales and strategy will have to work closer together.</p>
<p>However, how far that goes is up for debate he says: for example, do you drop stories which are less good commercially?</p>
<p>Meanwhile, at Deutsche Welle, marketing team, editorial and media sales representatives are meeting in small &#8216;competence teams&#8217;  in order to address monetising and editorial issues in different countries (they have 4,500 media partners worldwide), explains Baumhauer.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laura Oliver</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet Rounding off last night&#8217;s discussion panel hosted by New Media Knowledge on the future of the newspaper industry, panelists were asked what or who they would put their money on for success and survival over the next few years. Martin Stabe, media blogger, former new media editor of Press Gazette and online editor of [...]]]></description>
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<p>Rounding off last night&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nmk.co.uk/event/2008/9/16/what-happens-to-newspapers" target="_blank">discussion panel hosted by New Media Knowledge on the future of the newspaper industry</a>, panelists were asked what or who they would put their money on for success and survival over the next few years.</p>
<p>Martin Stabe, media blogger, former new media editor of Press Gazette and online editor of Retail Week, plumped for niche and expert content:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I would bet on anyone who can create unique, high quality content. I&#8217;d bet on the Financial Times, the Wall Street Journal &#8211; those corners of more generalist publications that become more expert,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Newspapers need to have &#8216;the ability to compete with all the freely produced expert content that is sometimes better than what is produced by the professionals&#8217;, he added.</p>
<p>Neil McIntosh, head of editorial development at Guardian.co.uk, agreed that niche coverage could help newspapers compete with the blogosphere.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In areas where blogs are working really well, mainstream media has two options: to raise its game and start covering those niches better; or it can get out and as <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/02/22/new-rule-cover-what-you-do-best-link-to-the-rest/" target="_blank">Jeff Jarvis says, &#8216;do what you do best, and link to the rest&#8217;</a>,&#8221; said McIntosh</p>
<p>&#8220;Those are two areas where mainstream media can move forward but it’s about acknowledging that this world exists.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Assistant editor at Telegraph Media Group, Justin Williams said trusted brands and content areas such as finance, politics and certain sports are best placed to survive.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Brands that are trusted and valued no matter how they are produced, those brands will still be here in 10 years time. You&#8217;re looking at areas like finance, politics, certain kinds of sport, where we still thrive. During the financial crisis most of us have turned to established news outlets,&#8221; said Williams.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re positioned in those markets already, if we can hone in on what&#8217;s important to our readers and deliver it in a smart way, then we [newspapers] can be here in 10 years time.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laura Oliver</dc:creator>
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<p>Publishers using user-generated content (UGC) are not simply going for the cheap option, Neil McIntosh, head of editorial development at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk" target="_blank">Guardian.co.uk</a>, told the audience at last night&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nmk.co.uk/event/2008/9/16/what-happens-to-newspapers" target="_blank">New Media Knowledge (NMK) &#8216;What happens to newspapers?&#8217; event</a>.</p>
<p>McIntosh was responding to suggestions made by the <a href="http://www.nuj.org.uk" target="_blank">National Union of Journalists&#8217; (NUJ)</a> Tim Gopsill that publishers were using more UGC to reduce costs.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;UGC is not cheap. It&#8217;s many things, but it&#8217;s not cheap. It&#8217;s extremely expensive to nurture it and to make it something worthwhile. My heart sinks when I hear the union saying that journalists are going to be replaced with UGC,&#8221; said McIntosh.</p></blockquote>
<p>Costs of publishing UGC, such as photos and comments, rapidly and training staff to moderate and contribute to discussions online are often overlooked in the debate over whether publishers should be using it, he added.</p>
<p>Speaking specifically about the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/help/insideguardian/2008/oct/27/belief-obama-atheist-bus" target="_blank">Guardian&#8217;s new belief channel on its Comment is Free (CiF) platform</a>, McIntosh said that without proper moderation and nurturing, the paper &#8216;might as well be lighting the blue touch paper and running&#8217;.</p>
<p>When interacting with UGC, in particular comments, blog posts and CiF submissions, it is about &#8216;encouraging journalists to write the kind of things that kickstart a debate in the right direction&#8217;, he said.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Luft</dc:creator>
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<p>Guardian.co.uk needs to rethink its &#8216;challenging&#8217; business model if it is ever to survive on its own without the printed paper, according to its head of editorial development, Neil McIntosh.</p>
<p>Press Gazette reports McIntosh speaking at the opening of the Brighton Festival, where he said &#8216;many millions&#8217; more visitors would be needed to the newspaper&#8217;s website to sustain current levels of investment in journalism it is making on the web.</p>
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		<title>Editor&#8217;s Weblog: Review of Guardian Unlimited&#8217;s development in the build-up to integration</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Oliver</dc:creator>
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<p>Ian Katz, executive editor of The Guardian, Neil McIntosh, editorial head of development at Guardian Unlimited, and Tom Happold, network editor of Guardian Unlimited, discuss the &#8216;organic&#8217; growth of the paper&#8217;s online strategy.</p>
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