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		<title>Media140: Twitter, newsgathering and trust</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laura Oliver</dc:creator>
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<p>&#8220;We are putting a massive amount of trust in one platform here. Twitter is throttling this mechanism obviously for its own commercial ends (…) If we put so much of our newsgathering onto one platform we&#8217;re in real danger,&#8221; said Mike Butcher, TechCrunch UK editor, yesterday as part of a panel on the &#8217;140-character story&#8217;.</p>
<p>While much of yesterday&#8217;s <a href="http://www.journalism.co.uk/2/articles/534500.php?cmd=Search&amp;rssOutputSectionID=67&amp;searchTags=media140" target="_blank">Media140 conference</a> focused on best practice and how journalists can use microblogging tools such as Twitter, Butcher and his fellow panellists comments were a warning to news organisations tempted to jump on a social media bandwagon.</p>
<p>As journalists, &#8216;we always want the next big thing, because it validates the fact that we’ve written about them&#8217;, said fellow speaker Bill Thompson, referring to his own experience as a freelance technology writer.</p>
<p>But, added Thompson, if &#8216;old media&#8217; rules are applied too readily to new media, organisations will &#8216;miss the essential quality of what Twitter is doing&#8217;.</p>
<p>Some &#8216;old&#8217; guidelines still apply, suggested BBC technology editor Darren Waters: &#8220;We cannot get into a world where the real-time web means the &#8216;not wrong for long&#8217; era.&#8221;</p>
<p>Listening to yesterday&#8217;s panel the issue of the personal/professional divide when journalists enter social media or online communities – indeed how &#8216;social&#8217; they can be on these platforms – is still a work in progress.<br />
The BBC is still working on its editorial policy towards personal social media use by journalists (and after all &#8216;social media&#8217; is not some fixed, homogenous lump) – <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/editorialguidelines/advice/personalweb/blogging.shtml" target="_blank">it has set out some guidelines at this link</a> – the corporation must consider its relationship with its audience and to what extent personal content is seen as representing the BBC.</p>
<p>But &#8211; as panellist Jon Gripton, senior editor at Sky News Online, suggested &#8211; in terms of following up reports on Twitter and social media, for example of breaking news events, the same journalistic attitude towards fact-checking and verification apply.</p>
<p>A mantra from Thompson: &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe anything I see or read on Twitter, it tells me where to go.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet A couple of crowd-sourced questions were taken by the Twitter panel, but some were missed. We&#8217;ll post them here and hope the panelists will answer them via Twitter or in the comments below. Noodlepie: @jamierussell be interested to know if the panel are looking at ways to increase &#8220;retweetness&#8221;. Very big traffic driver, no? [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/03/05/dna09-twittering-is-it-possible-to-tell-the-news-in-140-characters-or-fewer/" target="_blank">A couple of crowd-sourced questions were taken by the Twitter panel</a>, but some were missed. We&#8217;ll post them here and hope the panelists will answer them via Twitter or in the comments below.</p>
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<p><em>Journalism.co.uk’s very own @lauraoliver was on a panel led by Wired UK&#8217;s associate editor @benhammersley at Digital News Affairs 2009. The others were Jeff Jarvis, blogger at BuzzMachine (@jeffjarvis); Robin Hamman, senior social media consultant at Headshift (@cybersoc); Darren Waters, technology editor at BBC News website (@darrenwaters); Bert Brouwers, editor-in-chief of Sp!ts (@brewbart); Katharina Borchert, editor-in-chief of Der Westen and MD of WAZ media (@lyssaslounge).</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet Journalism.co.uk&#8217;s very own @lauraoliver is joining a panel led by Wired.com associate editor @benhammersley at Digital News Affairs 2009. The others are Jeff Jarvis, blogger at BuzzMachine (@jeffjarvis); Robin Hamman, senior social media consultant at Headshift (@cybersoc); Darren Waters, technology editor at BBC News website (@darrenwaters); Bert Brouwers, editor-in-chief of Sp!ts (@brewbart); Katharina Borchert, [...]]]></description>
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<p>Journalism.co.uk&#8217;s very own <a href="http://twitter.com/lauraoliver" target="_blank">@lauraoliver</a> is joining a panel led by Wired.com associate editor <a href="http://twitter.com/benhammersley" target="_blank">@benhammersley</a> at Digital News Affairs 2009. The others are Jeff Jarvis, blogger at BuzzMachine <a href="http://twitter.com/jeffjarvis" target="_blank">(@jeffjarvis)</a>; Robin Hamman, senior social media consultant at Headshift <a href="http://twitter.com/cybersoc" target="_blank">(@cybersoc)</a>; Darren Waters, technology editor at BBC News website (<a href="http://twitter.com/darrenwaters" target="_blank">@darrenwaters)</a>; Bert Brouwers, editor-in-chief of Sp!ts (<a href="http://twitter.com/brewbart" target="_blank">@brewbart); </a>Katharina Borchert, editor-in-chief of Der Westen and MD of WAZ media (<a href="http://twitter.com/lyssaslounge" target="_blank">@lyssaslounge).</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Oliver</dc:creator>
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<p><a href="http://www.google.com">Google</a> has launched <a href="https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=ah&amp;continue=http://appengine.google.com/_ah/login%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp://appengine.google.com/&amp;ltmpl=ae&amp;sig=2441550b0617bb4eb9e7f8c3eb9e63b1">App Engine</a> &#8211; a service allowing web developers to test out their applications on Google&#8217;s infrastructure.</p>
<p>By using Google technology developers will be able to see how their applications fare &#8216;under heavy load and with large amounts of data&#8217;, says <a href="http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2008/04/introducing-google-app-engine-our-new.html">a post on the new blog for the service</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;The goal is to make it easy to get started with a new web app, and then make it easy to scale when that app reaches the point where it&#8217;s receiving significant traffic and has millions of users,&#8221; writes Paul McDonald, product manager.</p>
<p>There are certain restrictions on the applications, namely: maximum of 500MB of storage, 200M megacycles of CPU per day and 10GB bandwidth per day. The tool will remain free when used within these parameters and, as it&#8217;s developed, users will be able to purchase extra resources.</p>
<p>Donald says most applications are expected to be able to serve approximately 5 million pageviews per month.</p>
<p>The App Engine is at the &#8216;preview&#8217; stage &#8211; meaning only the first 10,000 subscribers can play with it for now. The list is already full:</p>
<p><img src="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/google-app.jpg" alt="Google App subscription page" height="152" width="511" /></p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/google_the_genial_web_host.html">Darren Waters on the BBC&#8217;s dot.life blog</a> there were no more places within 24 hours. Waters points to the launch as a signal of where Google is headed as a company:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There&#8217;s no doubt that hosted services, from web applications to programs we associate mainly with desktop computing, are the future&#8230; more interesting will be what Google says it will be able to do with the applications and resultant data that it will host on our behalf, on the behalf of developers and companies.</p>
<p>&#8220;Google could help drive standards not just for the web as we understand it today, but for each and every device that is being connected to the net now and in the coming years&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/08/techcrunch-labs-our-experience-building-and-launching-app-on-google-app-engine/">TechCrunch has already used the service to build an application</a> and says it took four hours from sign-up to deployment &#8211; its speed and simplicity being the main attraction to developers. However, questions will need to be asked about the scaling process, writes Henry Work.</p>
<p>While making it quick and easy is undoubtedly a positive for developers, <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/04/google_opens_it.html">Thomas Claburn at InformationWeek</a> urges caution:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;[D]evelopers looking to travel the path of least resistance should pay close attention to the risks of depending on someone else and to the limitations imposed by terms-of-service contracts. We&#8217;re talking about outsourcing your infrastructure, after all.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Is this Google offering developers a helping hand or offering to buy them up?</p>
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