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	<title>Journalism.co.uk Editors&#039; Blog &#187; Charles Arthur</title>
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		<title>#FollowJourn @charlesarthur/technology editor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/09/28/followjourn-charlesarthurtechnology-editor/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Helen Quinn</dc:creator>
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#FollowJourn: Charles Arthur

Who? Technology editor at the Guardian.
What? Arthur was previously technology editor at the Independent, writing about technology, science and the environment before going freelance. Now he edits the Guardian&#8217;s weekly technology supplement and site. 
Where? @charlesarthur and www.charlesarthur.com
Contact? Via Twitter or his blog.
Just as we like to supply you with fresh and innovative tips [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>#FollowJourn: Charles Arthur<br />
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<p><em>Who?</em> Technology editor at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology">the Guardian.</a></p>
<p><em>What?</em> Arthur was previously technology editor at <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/">the Independent</a>, writing about technology, science and the environment before going freelance. Now he edits the Guardian&#8217;s weekly technology supplement and site. <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/"></a></p>
<p><em>Where?</em> <a href="http://twitter.com/charlesarthur">@charlesarthur</a> and <a href="http://www.charlesarthur.com/index.php">www.charlesarthur.com</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em>Contact?</em><strong> </strong><a href="http://twitter.com/charlesarthur" target="_blank">Via Twitter</a> or <a href="http://www.charlesarthur.com/contact.php" target="_blank">his blog.</a></p>
<p><em>Just as we like to supply you with fresh and innovative tips every day, we&#8217;re recommending journalists to follow online too. They might be from any sector of the industry: please send suggestions (you can nominate yourself) to <a href="mailto:judith@journalism.co.uk">judith</a> or <a href="mailto:laura@journalism.co.uk">laura [at] journalism.co.uk</a>; or to <a href="http://twitter.com/journalismnews">@journalismnews</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>MediaGuardian: &#8216;Technology journalists are the ones to watch&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/09/21/mediaguardian-technology-journalists-are-the-ones-to-watch/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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In this morning&#8217;s MediaGuardian, technology journalist Charles Arthur says that technology journalists are the pioneers of new gadgets, and the ones in the industry to keep an eye on:
&#8220;[I]f you want to find out how you&#8217;re going to be working in a few years&#8217; time, watch the technology journalists.
&#8220;[The BBC's technology correspondent, Rory Cellan-Jones] tends [...]]]></description>
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<p>In this morning&#8217;s MediaGuardian, technology journalist Charles Arthur says that technology journalists are the pioneers of new gadgets, and the ones in the industry to keep an eye on:</p>
<p>&#8220;[I]f you want to find out how you&#8217;re going to be working in a few years&#8217; time, watch the technology journalists.</p>
<p>&#8220;[The BBC's technology correspondent, Rory Cellan-Jones] tends to be in the forefront of trying new technologies &#8211; from email to the web to Skype to cloud computing to iPhones to Facebook to Twitter.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/sep/21/technology-journalists-pioneers" target="_blank">Full article at this link,,,</a></p>
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		<title>Charles Arthur: &#8216;The long tail of blogging is dying&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laura Oliver</dc:creator>
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Arthur picks up on a trend made apparent by anecdotal evidence and research, and Technorati data on the Guardian&#8217;s own blogs, that the long tail of blogging is dying as bloggers turn to different, easier platforms.
So are blogs being replaced &#8211; and by what?
&#8220;Facebook&#8217;s success is built on the ease of doing everything in one [...]]]></description>
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<p>Arthur picks up on a trend made apparent by anecdotal evidence and research, and Technorati data on the Guardian&#8217;s own blogs, that the long tail of blogging is dying as bloggers turn to different, easier platforms.</p>
<p>So are blogs being replaced &#8211; and by what?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Facebook&#8217;s success is built on the ease of doing everything in one place. (Search tools can&#8217;t index it to see who&#8217;s talking about what, which may be a benefit or a failing.) Twitter offers instant content and reaction. Writing a blog post is a lot harder than posting a status update, putting a funny link on someone&#8217;s wall, or tweeting. People are still reading blogs, and other content. But for the creation of amateur content, their heyday for the wider population has, I think, already passed. The short head of blogging thrives. Its long tail, though, has lapsed into desuetude,&#8221; writes Arthur.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/24/charles-arthur-blogging-twitter">Full post at this link&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>Charles Arthur: There&#8217;s room for both the Davids and the Goliaths</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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The Guardian&#8217;s technology editor shares his thoughts on the current process vs product; blogger vs MSM discussions, sparked by a critical NYTimes&#8217; piece about technology blogs.
Charles Arthur describes his own epiphany, made when he stepped back to ask himself why he disagreed with Jeff Jarvis&#8217; view. While it offends him &#8216;in some visceral fashion to [...]]]></description>
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<p>The Guardian&#8217;s technology editor shares his thoughts on the current process vs product; blogger vs MSM discussions, sparked by a critical NYTimes&#8217; piece about technology blogs.</p>
<p>Charles Arthur describes his own epiphany, made when he stepped back to ask himself why he disagreed with Jeff Jarvis&#8217; view. While it offends him &#8216;in some visceral fashion to think of publishing stuff that I really <em><em>believe</em></em> isn’t correct,&#8217; there&#8217;s room for different players to make different rules for themselves and live alongside each other, he says.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.charlesarthur.com/blog/?p=1114#comment-376464" target="_blank">Full post at this link&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>Fallout from Jarvis&#8217; &#8216;perfection vs beta culture&#8217; post</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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Jay Rosen, said that yesterday&#8217;s New York Times&#8217; piece on the &#8216;truth-be-damned approach&#8217; of Tech blogging &#8216;did not bother&#8217; him.
Not so for fellow NY journalism professor, Jeff Jarvis. His Buzzmachine post on &#8216;Product v. process journalism: The myth of perfection v. beta culture&#8217; is currently doing the link rounds and has sparked a number of [...]]]></description>
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<p>Jay Rosen, <a href="Jeff Jarvis' post on 'Product v. process journalism: The myth of perfection v. beta culture' responds to yesterday's New York Times' piece on the 'truth-be-damned approach' of Tech blogging. " target="_blank">said that</a> yesterday&#8217;s New York Times&#8217; piece <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/07/business/media/07ping.html?_r=1&amp;ref=media" target="_blank">on the &#8216;truth-be-damned approach&#8217; of Tech blogging</a> &#8216;did not bother&#8217; him.</p>
<p>Not so for fellow NY journalism professor, Jeff Jarvis. His Buzzmachine post on <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/07/processjournalism/">&#8216;Product v. process journalism: The myth of perfection v. beta culture&#8217;</a> is currently doing the link rounds and has sparked a number of debates. For example:</p>
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<li>A Twitter row between Jarvis and the e<span class="bio">ditor of the Sunday Business section of New York Times, </span>Tim O&#8217;Brien: <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=&amp;ands=&amp;phrase=&amp;ors=&amp;nots=&amp;tag=&amp;lang=all&amp;from=jeffjarvis&amp;to=TimOBrienNYT&amp;ref=&amp;near=&amp;within=15&amp;units=mi&amp;since=&amp;until=&amp;rpp=25" target="_blank">Blogger here</a>; <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=&amp;ands=&amp;phrase=&amp;ors=&amp;nots=&amp;tag=&amp;lang=all&amp;from=TimOBrienNYT&amp;to=jeffjarvis&amp;ref=&amp;near=&amp;within=15&amp;units=mi&amp;since=&amp;until=&amp;rpp=25" target="_blank">MSM here</a>.</li>
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<li>A response from the Guardian&#8217;s Tech editor Charles Arthur, in regards to a criticism of UK tech reporting. One commenter, Wessell van Rensberg, remarked underneath Jarvis&#8217; post: &#8220;I live in the UK and the Guardian’s weekly tech edition is paltry in terms of its tech coverage. Both in terms of scope and quality.&#8221;</li>
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<p>Arthur responds:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Flattered, I&#8217;m sure. Haven&#8217;t noticed your name in the letters pointing out what you think we should be covering; don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve commented on our many blogs (Tech, Games, PDA) that cover tech. We do have lots of insightful commenters (which I think is what you mean instead of &#8216;commentators&#8217;.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Hard to know quite what you want. For instance: TCrunch says Apple is going to buy Twitter. As soon as possible I point out, on the Guardian blog, why that&#8217;s absolutely not happening. It turns out it isn&#8217;t happening. Which is more useful?</p>
<p>&#8220;And I&#8217;ll also point out that when TCrunch does get it wrong, such as on Last.fm &#8216;passing data to the RIAA&#8217; &#8211; a story denied by all sides, where it would be illegal for Last to pass the data (UK data protection act forbids) &#8211; TC deletes comments pointing that out. Do you really trust it?&#8221;</p>
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<p>Now, might there be room for a response on that point? Come on, TechCrunch fight your corner!</p>
<p>Journalism.co.uk is quite enjoying its ringside view, but &#8211; on a side point &#8211; is there a neater way of viewing Twitter debates, <a href="http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/2075855186" target="_blank">than the links suggested by Jay Rosen</a>?</p>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/04/08/datajourn-part-1-a-new-conversation-please-re-tweet/" rel="bookmark" title="April 8, 2009">#DataJourn part 1: a new conversation (please re-tweet)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/06/10/charles-arthur-theres-room-for-both-the-davids-and-the-goliaths/" rel="bookmark" title="June 10, 2009">Charles Arthur: There&#8217;s room for both the Davids and the Goliaths</a></li>
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		<title>TBC at high noon? Telegraph-Guardian spats</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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The latest &#8216;Twackdown&#8217; seems unlikely to be the end of the Telegraph-Guardian or, to be absolutely fair, Guardian-Telegraph frictions.
After all, in just under an hour we&#8217;ll know who is top of the ABCe pops for this month&#8230;
So, this week&#8217;s Twitterfall spat from Malcolm Coles: &#8216;That Shane Richmond / Charles Arthur Twackdown in full&#8217;.
Guardian technology editor [...]]]></description>
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<p>The latest &#8216;Twackdown&#8217; seems unlikely to be the end of the Telegraph-Guardian or, to be absolutely fair, Guardian-Telegraph frictions.</p>
<p>After all, in just under an hour we&#8217;ll know who is top of the ABCe pops for this month&#8230;</p>
<p>So, this week&#8217;s Twitterfall spat from Malcolm Coles: <a href="http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/shane-richmond-charles-arthur-twackdown/" target="_blank">&#8216;That Shane Richmond / Charles Arthur Twackdown in full&#8217;.</a></p>
<p>Guardian technology editor Charles Arthur has the last word [to date] in a comment beneath the post: &#8220;I&#8217;d only point out that this was a far more multidimensional discussion than this portrays.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another row <a href="http://twitter.com/shanerichmond/statuses/1592513632" target="_blank">a&#8217;brewing</a> with this? <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/23/guido-fawkes-spectator-telegraph" target="_blank">The Guardian reports &#8216;anger&#8217; at the Telegraph</a> over Guido&#8217;s Spectator article.</p>
<p>(And while we&#8217;re on Guido, it&#8217;s interesting to note that <a href="http://www.order-order.com/2009/04/reporting-from-the-guardian/" target="_blank">Guido himself was in the Guardian building this week</a> &#8211; <a href="http://jonslattery.blogspot.com/2009/04/guido-gets-inside-guardians-hq.html" target="_blank">via Jon Slattery</a>)</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong><a href="http://www.journalism.co.uk/2/articles/534152.php" target="_blank">In the March 2009 ABCe audit</a>, as released at midday, the Telegraph tops the table of six national newspaper titles with the highest number of unique users, followed in second place by the Guardian.</p>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2008/09/19/grauniadcouk-v-torygraphcouk-round-374/" rel="bookmark" title="September 19, 2008">Grauniad.co.uk v Torygraph.co.uk: Round 374</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2008/05/28/guardian-most-popular-newspaper-website-in-uk-according-to-nielsen-online/" rel="bookmark" title="May 28, 2008">Guardian most popular newspaper website in UK, according to Nielsen Online</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/11/19/why-the-guardian-is-killing-technology-print-supplement/" rel="bookmark" title="November 19, 2009">Why the Guardian is killing technology print supplement</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2007/11/06/soe-guardian-reporter-planning-to-use-hitwise-figures-in-telegraph-marketing-again/" rel="bookmark" title="November 6, 2007">@SoE: Guardian reporter: planning to use Hitwise figures in Telegraph marketing again?</a></li>
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		<title>#DataJourn part 3: Useful and recent links looking at use of data in journalism</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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Perhaps we&#8217;ll expand this to a Dipity timeline at some point (other ideas?), but for the meantime, here&#8217;s a list of a few recent and relevant links relating to CAR and use of data in journalism to get the conversation on Twitter &#8211; via #datajourn &#8211; going. NB: These are not necessarily in chronological order. [...]]]></description>
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<p>Perhaps we&#8217;ll expand this to a Dipity timeline at some point (other ideas?), but for the meantime, here&#8217;s a list of a few recent and relevant links relating to CAR and use of data in journalism to get the conversation on Twitter &#8211; via <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23datajourn" target="_blank">#datajourn</a> &#8211; going. NB: These are not necessarily in chronological order. Then, the next logical step would be to start looking at examples of where data has been used for specific journalism projects.</p>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/04/08/datajourn-part-1-a-new-conversation-please-re-tweet/" target="_blank">&#8216;#DataJourn: a new conversation</a>&#8216;, Journalism.co.uk Editors&#8217; Blog</li>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/03/11/qa-with-an-information-architect-aka-currybet-aka-martin-belam/" target="_blank">&#8216;Q&amp;A with an information architect, aka CurryBet aka Martin Belam&#8217;</a>, Journalism.co.uk Editors&#8217; Blog</li>
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<li> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/help/insideguardian/2008/nov/13/guardian-hack-day" target="_blank">&#8216;Hackday at the Guardian&#8217;</a>, Guardian.co.uk</li>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/03/11/guardians-open-platform/" target="_blank">&#8216;Guardian&#8217;s Open Platfrom &#8211; some thoughts from the blogs</a>&#8216;, Journalism.co.uk Editors&#8217; Blog</li>
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<li><a href="# http://www.journalism.co.uk/2/articles/533755.php" target="_blank">&#8221;Facts are sacred&#8217;: Guardian frees content and data for developers&#8217; use&#8217;</a>, Journalism.co.uk</li>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2008/04/28/online-journalism-scandinavia/" target="_blank">&#8216;Online Journalism Scandinavia: &#8216;Computer programming is journalism&#8217;</a>, Journalism.co.uk Editors&#8217; Blog (by <a href="http://twitter.com/kristinelowe" target="_blank">@kristinelowe</a>)</li>
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<li><a href="If I had one piece of advice to a journalist starting out now, it would be: learn to code" target="_blank">&#8216;If I had one piece of advice to a journalist starting out now, it would be: learn to code,&#8217;</a> Charles Arthur&#8217;s personal blog.</li>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/04/08/datajourn-part-1-a-new-conversation-please-re-tweet/" rel="bookmark" title="April 8, 2009">#DataJourn part 1: a new conversation (please re-tweet)</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/03/11/guardians-open-platform/" rel="bookmark" title="March 11, 2009">Guardian&#8217;s Open Platform &#8211; some thoughts from the blogs</a></li>
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		<title>#DataJourn part 2: Q&amp;A with &#8216;data juggler&#8217; Tony Hirst</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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As explained in part one of today&#8217;s #datajourn conversation, Tony Hirst is the &#8216;data juggler&#8217; (as titled by Guardian tech editor Charles Arthur) behind some of the most interesting uses of the Guardian&#8217;s Open Platform (unless swear words are your thing &#8211; in which case check out Tom Hume&#8217;s work)
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<p><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/04/08/datajourn-part-1-a-new-conversation-please-re-tweet/" target="_blank">As explained in part one</a> of today&#8217;s <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23datajourn" target="_blank">#datajourn</a> conversation, Tony Hirst is the &#8216;data juggler&#8217; (<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/apr/01/mps-expenses-houseofcommons" target="_blank">as titled by Guardian tech editor Charles Arthur</a>) behind some of the most interesting uses of the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/open-platform" target="_blank">Guardian&#8217;s Open Platform</a> (unless swear words are your thing &#8211; in which case check out <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/open-platform/blog/trending-swear-words" target="_blank">Tom Hume&#8217;s work</a>)</p>
<p>Journalism.co.uk sent<span class="bio"> OU academic, mashup artist and Isle of Wight resident</span>, Tony Hirst, some questions over. Here are his very comprehensive answers.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s your primary interest in &#8211; and motivation for &#8211; playing with the Guardian&#8217;s Open Platform?</strong><br />
<strong>TH:</strong> Open Platform is a combination of two things &#8211; the Guardian API, and the Guardian Data store. My interest in the API is twofold: first, at the technical level, does it play nicely with &#8216;mashup tools&#8217; such as yahoo pipes, Google spreadsheet&#8217;s =importXML formula, and so on; secondly, what sort of content does it expose that might support a &#8216;news and learning&#8217; mashup site where we can automatically pull in related open educational resources around a news story to help people learn more about the issues involved with that story?</p>
<p>One of the things I&#8217;ve been idling about lately is what a &#8216;university API&#8217; might look at, so the architecture of the Guardian API, and in particular the way the URIs that call on the API, are structured is of interest in that regard (along with other APIs, such as the New York Times&#8217; APIs, the BBC programmes&#8217; API, and so on).</p>
<p>The data blog resources &#8211; which are currently being posted on Google spreadsheets &#8211; are a handy source of data in a convenient form that I can use to try out various &#8216;mashup recipes&#8217;. I&#8217;m not so interested in the data as is, more in the ways in which it can be combined with other data sets (for example, in Dabble DB) and or displayed using third party visualisation tools. What inspires me is trying to find &#8216;mashup patterns&#8217; that other people can use with other data sets. I&#8217;ve written several blog posts showing how to pull data from Google spreadsheets in <a href="http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/wikified/main/Main%20Page" target="_blank">IBM&#8217;s Many Eyes Wikified visualisation tool</a>: it&#8217;d be great if other people realised they could use a similar approach to visualise sets of data I haven&#8217;t looked at.</p>
<p>Playing with the actual data also turns up practical &#8216;issues&#8217; about how easy it is to create mashups with public data. For example, one silly niggle I had with the MPs&#8217; expenses data was that pound signs appeared in many of the data cells, which meant that Many Eyes Wikified, for example, couldn&#8217;t read the amounts as numbers, and so couldn&#8217;t chart them. (In fact, I don&#8217;t think it likes pound signs at all because of the character encoding!) Which meant I had to clean the data, which introduced another step in the chain where errors could be introduced, and which also raised the barrier to entry for people wanting to use the data directly from the data store spreadsheet. If I can help find some of the obstacles to effective data reuse, then maybe I can help people publish their data in way that makes it easier for other people to reuse (including myself!).</p>
<p><strong>Do you feel content with the way journalists present data in news stories, or could we learn from developers and designers? </strong><br />
<strong>TH: </strong>There&#8217;s a problem here in that journalists have to present stories that are: a) subject to space and layout considerations beyond their control; and b) suited to their audience. Just publishing tabulated data is good in the sense that it provides the reader with evidence for claims made in a story (as well as potentially allowing other people to interrogate the data and maybe look for other interpretations of it), but I suspect is meaningless, or at least of no real interest, to most people. For large data sets, you wouldn&#8217;t want to publish them within a story anyway.</p>
<p>An important thing to remember about data is that it can be used to tell stories, and that it may hide a great many patterns. Some of these patterns are self-evident if the data is visualised appropriately. &#8216;Geo-data&#8217; is a fine example of this. It&#8217;s natural home is on a map (as long as the geo-coding works properly, that is (i.e. the mapping from location names, for example, to latitude/longitude co-ordinates than can be plotted on a map).</p>
<p>Finding ways of visualising and interacting data is getting easier all the time. I try to find mashup patterns that don&#8217;t require much, if any, writing of computer programme code, and so in theory should be accessible to many non-developers. But it&#8217;s a confidence thing: and at the moment, I suspect that it is the developers who are more likely to feel confident taking data from one source, putting it into an application, and then providing the user with a simple user interface that they can &#8216;just use&#8217;.<br />
<strong><br />
You mentioned about &#8216;lowering barriers to entry&#8217; &#8211; what do you mean by that, and how is it useful? </strong><br />
<strong>TH:</strong> Do you write SQL code to query databases? Do you write PHP code parse RSS feeds and filter out items of interest? Are you happy writing Javascript to parse a JSON feed, or would rather use XMLHTTPRequest and a server side proxy to pull in an XML feed into a web page and get around the domain security model?</p>
<p>Probably none of the above.</p>
<p>On the other hand, could you copy and paste a URL to a data set into a &#8216;fetch&#8217; block in a Yahoo pipe, identify which data element related to a place name so that you could geocode the data, and then take the URL of the data coming out from the pipe and paste it into the Google maps search box to get a map based view of your data? Possibly&#8230;</p>
<p>Or how about taking a spreadsheet URL, pasting it into Many Eyes Wikified, choosing the chart type you wanted based on icons depicting those chart types, and then selecting the data elements you wanted to plot on each axis from a drop down menu? Probably&#8230;<strong><br />
</strong></p>
<p><strong>What kind of recognition/reward would you like for helping a journalist produce a news story? </strong><br />
<strong>TH: </strong>A mention for my employer, The Open University, and a link to my personal blog, <a href="http://ouseful.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">OUseful.info</a>. If I&#8217;d written a &#8216;How To&#8217; explanation describing how a mashup or visualisation was put together, a link to that would be nice too. And if I ever met the journalist concerned, a coffee would be appreciated! I also find it valuable knowing what sorts of things journalists would like to be able to do with the technology that they can&#8217;t work out how to do. This can feed into our course development process, identifying the skills requirements that are out there, and then potentially servicing those needs through our course provision. There&#8217;s also the potential for us to offer consultancy services to journalists too, producing tools and visualisations as part of a commercial agreement.</p>
<p>One of the things my department is looking at at the moment is a revamped website. it&#8217;s a possibility that I&#8217;ll start posting stories there about any news related mashups I put together, and if that is the case, then links to that content would be appropriate. This isn&#8217;t too unlike the relationship we have with the BBC, where we co-produce televlsion and radio programmes and get links back to supporting content on OU websites from BBC website, as well as programme credits. For example, I help pull together the website around the BBC World Service programme Digital Planet, <a href="http://open2.net/digitalplanet/" target="_blank">which we co-produce every so often</a>. which gets a link from the World Service website (as well as the programme&#8217;s Facebook group!), and the OU gets a mention in the closing credits. The rationale behind this approach is getting traffic to OU sites, of course, where we can then start to try to persuade people to sign up for related courses!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Judith Townend</dc:creator>
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Had it not been published at the end of the workday on a Friday, Journalism.co.uk would have made a bit more of a song-and-dance of this story, but as a result it instead it got reduced to a quick blog post. In short: OU academic Tony Hirst produced a rather lovely map, on the suggestion [...]]]></description>
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<p>Had it not been published at the end of the workday on a Friday, Journalism.co.uk would have made a bit more of a song-and-dance of this story, but as a result it instead it got <a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/04/03/mps-travel-expenses-disparity-highlighted-by-guardian-open-platform-projects/" target="_blank">reduced to a quick blog post</a>. In short: <a href="http://ouseful.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">OU academic Tony Hirst</a> produced a rather lovely map, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/apr/01/mps-expenses-houseofcommons" target="_blank">on the suggestion (taunt?)</a> of the Guardian&#8217;s technology editor, Charles Arthur, and the result? <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/03/google-maps-reveals-disparity-in-mps-expenses-claims" target="_blank">A brand new politics story</a> for the Guardian on MPs&#8217; expenses.</p>
<p>Computer-assisted reporting (CAR) is nothing new, but innovations such as the Guardian&#8217;s launch of Open Platform, are leading to new relationships and conversations between data/stats experts, programmers and developers, (including the rarer breed of <a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/03/11/qa-with-an-information-architect-aka-currybet-aka-martin-belam/" target="_blank">information architects</a>), designers, and journalists &#8211; bringing with them new opportunities, but also new questions. Some that immediately spring to mind:</p>
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<li>How do both parties (data and interactive gurus <em>and</em> the journalists) benefit?</li>
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<li>Who should get credit for new news stories produced, and how should developers be rewarded?</li>
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<li>Will newsrooms invest in training journalists to understand and present data better?</li>
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<li>What problems are presented by non-journalists playing with data, if any?</li>
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<li>What other questions should we be asking?</li>
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<p>The hashtag <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23datajourn" target="_blank">#datajourn</a> seems a good one with which to kickstart this discussion on Twitter (Using #CAR, for example, could lead to confusion&#8230;).</p>
<p>So, to get us started, two offerings coming your way in #datajourn part 2 and 3. <a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/04/08/datajourn-part-2-qa-with-data-juggler-tony-hirst/" target="_blank"></a></p>
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<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/04/08/datajourn-part-2-qa-with-data-juggler-tony-hirst/" target="_blank">Q&amp;A with the man who inspired this post &#8211; Tony Hirst himself</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/04/08/datajourn-part-3-useful-and-recent-links-looking-at-use-of-data-in-journalism/" target="_blank">The beginnings of a list of links to relevant articles recently hosted on Journalism.co.uk and elsewhere.</a></li>
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<p>Please add your thoughts below the posts, and get in touch with <a href="http://mailto:judith@journalism.co.uk" target="_blank">judith@journalism.co.uk</a> (<a href="http://twitter.com/jtownend" target="_blank">@jtownend</a> on Twitter) with your own ideas and suggestions for ways Journalism.co.uk can report, participate in, and debate the use of CAR and data tools for good quality and ethical journalism.</p>
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		<title>Craig McGill: Pitch by Twitter, says Guardian&#8217;s Charles Arthur</title>
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Craig McGill discusses the Guardian&#8217;s technology editor, Charles Arthur, request that PRs pitch only by Twitter, via a public &#8216;@&#8217; if they are not able to direct message him (you have to be mutually following each other to do that). Arthur has removed his email details from Gorkana in an attempt to reduce the clutter [...]]]></description>
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<p>Craig McGill discusses the Guardian&#8217;s technology editor, Charles Arthur, request that PRs pitch only by Twitter, via a public &#8216;@&#8217; if they are not able to direct message him (you have to be mutually following each other to do that). Arthur has removed his email details from Gorkana in an attempt to reduce the clutter in his inbox.</p>
<p><a href="http://craig-mcgill.com/2009/03/guardian-boss-prs-need-to-learn-to-pitch-by-twitter/" target="_blank">Full post at this link&#8230;</a></p>
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