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		<title>By: &#8216;No Branding Or Devotion &#8211; Only Utility.&#8217; &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-17537</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8216;No Branding Or Devotion &#8211; Only Utility.&#8217; &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Simon: ‘Newspapers Must Go Behind Paywall’ - Free is just another cover price  - What if the business model for news ain’t broke? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Scarcity, Abundance And The Misapprehension Of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Future Of Newspapers, It&#8217;s In The Bag &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Future Of Newspapers, It&#8217;s In The Bag &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Simon: ‘Newspapers Must Go Behind Paywall’  - Free is just another cover price  - What if the business model for news ain’t broke? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Journalism Online, would-be newspaper savior, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] David Simon: ‘Newspapers Must Go Behind Paywall’  - Free is just another cover price  - What if the business model for news ain’t broke? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Journalism Online, would-be newspaper savior, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Wire&#8217;s David Simon: &#8216;Newspapers must go behind paywall&#8217; &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wire&#8217;s David Simon: &#8216;Newspapers must go behind paywall&#8217; &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from what I&#8217;ve written before, I&#8217;m not convinced paywalls are the way to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Brown, JK Wedding Entrance Dance And Unintended Consequences &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-16970</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brown, JK Wedding Entrance Dance And Unintended Consequences &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the media industry obsesses over paywalls and micropayments, it would do well to look at the story of Chris Brown and the JK Wedding Entrance [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Write That Freesheet Obituary Just Yet &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Write That Freesheet Obituary Just Yet &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the demise of thelondonpaper, the layoffs at the Metro and fashionable talk of paid-for online content, the freesheets has still got a lot of life in its [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Comment: Free is just another cover price &#124; Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-16794</link>
		<dc:creator>Comment: Free is just another cover price &#124; Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In both cases the advertiser is paying for the eyeballs and the reader, viewer or listener gets content for a fraction (or none) of the real running costs of the media business. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rightmove, The Local Press And The Craigslist Effect &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-16526</link>
		<dc:creator>Rightmove, The Local Press And The Craigslist Effect &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Word From The Blogosphere - Scarcity, Abundance And The Misapprehension Of Online Advertising - What if the business model for news ain’t broke? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Movie theaters cut print show times as Web [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Word From The Blogosphere &#8211; Scarcity, Abundance And The Misapprehension Of Online Advertising &#8211; What if the business model for news ain’t broke? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Movie theaters cut print show times as Web [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thelondonpaper&#8217;s Demise: Word From The Blogosphere &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelondonpaper&#8217;s Demise: Word From The Blogosphere &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] model will continue to work in certain situation. And I&#8217;m sure Murdoch knows that. (see: What if the business model for news ain’t broke? for more on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spiegel Online: Will media be a hobby rather than job, asks Chris Anderson &#124; Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-15319</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiegel Online: Will media be a hobby rather than job, asks Chris Anderson &#124; Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] great opening gambit from Chris Anderson, editor in chief of US Wired and author of &#8216;Free&#8217;, in an interview with Spiegel Online&#8217;s Frank [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What Chris Brown&#8217;s YouTube Apology Tells Us About New Media &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-14958</link>
		<dc:creator>What Chris Brown&#8217;s YouTube Apology Tells Us About New Media &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Independent Adds Video. Why? &#8211; G20, YouTube And The Three Phases of Amateur Video &#8211; What if the business model for news ain’t broke? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)links for 2009-07-14‘I Consider Google News A [...]</description>
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		<title>By: YouTube If You Want To: Why Susan Boyle Won&#8217;t Save Michael Grade&#8217;s Grand Plan &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>YouTube If You Want To: Why Susan Boyle Won&#8217;t Save Michael Grade&#8217;s Grand Plan &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Scarcity, Abundance And The Misapprehension Of Online Advertising - What if the business model for news ain’t broke? - More Journalism.co.uk columns Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)A pause for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fox News Anchor To Rupert Murdoch: &#8216;Mr Chairman Sir, Why Are You So Great?&#8217; &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fox News Anchor To Rupert Murdoch: &#8216;Mr Chairman Sir, Why Are You So Great?&#8217; &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Guardian, News Of The World And The Other Side Of Scoops What if the business model for news ain&#8217;t broke? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Rupert Murdoch denies he&#146;s interested in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scarcity, Abundance And The Misapprehension Of Online Advertising &#171; Jon Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-14604</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarcity, Abundance And The Misapprehension Of Online Advertising &#171; Jon Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scarcity, Abundance And The Misapprehension Of Online&#160;Advertising Filed under: Uncategorized &#8212; jonbernstein @ 9:53 am Tags: Chris Anderson, Freeconomics, Journalism.co.uk  In the latest offering to the gods and goddesses of Journalism.co.uk I pose the following question: What if the business model for news ain’t broke? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Lomax</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-14535</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lomax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt very very much that the ads on GMail even come close to covering its costs.

GMail (and hotmail, yahoo mail) are loss leaders designed so that you create an account with the provider and become reliant on their services.

It looks like the free lunch is over for Google Apps. 

The issue is that context is required for direct response ads, and that brand advertising doesn&#039;t have the same impact online as it does in TV and the press.  So if you&#039;re online, but lack desired context, it&#039;s hard to charge for it.

It&#039;s easy to have a saleable context next to a search for &#039;ipod&#039;, but it&#039;s very difficult to sell the context of a news story of somebody being stabbed to death... 

Brand advertising wants to reach a captive yet passive audience, particularly FMCGs who are responsible for the bulk of ad spend, the majority of which is on brand marketing. People don&#039;t search Google for toilet roll or dishwasher tablets or frozen ready meals.

But even brand advertisers have a target market, demographics. There&#039;s no point marketing tampax to men. So that&#039;s why companies have loss leaders such as free email, to collect data on you. Facebook is the best at that, it even knows your sexual and political preferences, and lets advertisers target on pretty much anything.

But what the web makes up for in targeting, it lacks in impact, except for the odd viral. Can you see Unilever building a new brand on Facebook like they would in TV, press and magazines? Probably not. Yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt very very much that the ads on GMail even come close to covering its costs.</p>
<p>GMail (and hotmail, yahoo mail) are loss leaders designed so that you create an account with the provider and become reliant on their services.</p>
<p>It looks like the free lunch is over for Google Apps. </p>
<p>The issue is that context is required for direct response ads, and that brand advertising doesn&#8217;t have the same impact online as it does in TV and the press.  So if you&#8217;re online, but lack desired context, it&#8217;s hard to charge for it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to have a saleable context next to a search for &#8216;ipod&#8217;, but it&#8217;s very difficult to sell the context of a news story of somebody being stabbed to death&#8230; </p>
<p>Brand advertising wants to reach a captive yet passive audience, particularly FMCGs who are responsible for the bulk of ad spend, the majority of which is on brand marketing. People don&#8217;t search Google for toilet roll or dishwasher tablets or frozen ready meals.</p>
<p>But even brand advertisers have a target market, demographics. There&#8217;s no point marketing tampax to men. So that&#8217;s why companies have loss leaders such as free email, to collect data on you. Facebook is the best at that, it even knows your sexual and political preferences, and lets advertisers target on pretty much anything.</p>
<p>But what the web makes up for in targeting, it lacks in impact, except for the odd viral. Can you see Unilever building a new brand on Facebook like they would in TV, press and magazines? Probably not. Yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate McCaffery</title>
		<link>http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2009/07/08/what-if-the-business-model-for-news-aint-broke/comment-page-1/#comment-14533</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate McCaffery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this opinion. It&#039;s becoming more clear to me by the day that media staff are actually ahead of the curve when it comes to digital marketing. It&#039;s a shame that the industry is too much of a basket-case to realize it or work to capitalize on it, instead resorting to seriously blinkered decision making, mass layoffs, group think at times and... I don&#039;t know. Pursuing lines of thinking that clearly aren&#039;t all that effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this opinion. It&#8217;s becoming more clear to me by the day that media staff are actually ahead of the curve when it comes to digital marketing. It&#8217;s a shame that the industry is too much of a basket-case to realize it or work to capitalize on it, instead resorting to seriously blinkered decision making, mass layoffs, group think at times and&#8230; I don&#8217;t know. Pursuing lines of thinking that clearly aren&#8217;t all that effective.</p>
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